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Poster: dupree413 Date: Feb 25, 2012 9:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Transition time for the Grateful Dead (?)

This is in reply to the interest in the GD rising or falling.

The one thing that simply CANNOT be duplicated by you tube or even vault/road series releases - is seeing the band live. These things are great for anyone under 21 who never saw the Grateful Dead. But do not tell the x factor of the crowd and the band - the intangibles. INMO

Getting tapes (which are now downloads) from shows you attended was exciting and just way cool back in the day. Getting a show you missed with a killer performance or a setlist made you wonder "what if I made that show". But "at least I got the tape."

Jerry has been dead fo nearly 17 years, rest his soul. And while I (kicking and screaming) was suprised at the decent Dead tour of 2003, and with respect to the musical talent of Lesh Weir, etc.... It's not the same.

Remember what they used to say :" There is nothing like a Dead show. Period."

Today - the idea of mail ordering for a show must seem a universe away to many. And why would you buy a $25-$30 c.d when you can get a source here?

I don't know if interest is waxing or waning - but the time of mics in the air and raving about soundboards from shows last month are a thing of the past, IMHO

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 26, 2012 12:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Transition time for the Grateful Dead (?)

I mail ordered for tix on the last Fall Furthur tour...I do remember feeling like I was back in 1988 or something, like "who does this?"

"Mics in the air" is another interesting comment. I wish I had that picture I once saw of what looked like some stadium Dead show circa 1990 or so. It was an aerial view of the "taper's section," which looked more like a field with hundreds of people and a couple dozen stands (I think it was originally shared on here actually in a thread about how we only have one or two digitized auds with shnid's for so many shows where there were dozens of masters made). Anytime I go to any GD related show around here, I always talk to the tapers (I sometimes record myself), and it's almost always this really small group of people, maybe only one or two stands set up. Except for the bigger outdoor shows, you'd see more at those but we don't see many of those in St. Louis anymore (thank God, Riverport sucks).

Being from St. Louis, I don't feel like I'm on some sort of Deadhead island by myself, we have a pretty thriving scene here, actually, as we have two GD tributes that are always playing every week. And we almost always have stops here by the likes of Furthur and Ratdog and Phil and such (even Mickey and Billy were both here with their bands within the last year, and DSO always comes here as their drummers were from St Louis and are friends/old bandmates with a lot of local musicians who are involved in the GD world).

Anyway, I wasn't going to write a bunch in this thread, but one quick comment I was going to make was that I don't really go out to the local clubs and see our local GD tributes much anymore, but I've been in and out of that world since the late 90's, and it's always really been a young person's thing. There are the older heads around, but it's a lot like the GD scene at large, people sortof grow in and out of it. It's just kindof a young-person's thing to go out to bars on a weeknight and drink and dance to a GD cover band. And in that world of exposure-through-cover-band, it's usually younger kids who know a lot more about partying and dope than they do about the GD and their music. But they know there's SOMEthing they like about the whole experience, and they keep coming around. I guess my point was that I really don't know if interest is waxing or waning, I just think that the ways people get into it is the biggest thing to have changed.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Feb 25, 2012 10:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Transition time for the Grateful Dead (?)

I remember racing to get a xeroxed copy of Dupree's Diamond News to see what the recent set lists were and having the same feeling. Damn! Why wasn't I at that show? And the tape trees or listening to the show that same night in the parking lots, by the campfires, at the hotel or in someone's home.

There is a quote in the book Not Fade Away that goes something like this: I realized there would never be a show again, and then I thought of the people who would never see a show. I think the lot of us chased that feeling we had during and after an even good show (not to mention the high after a great show). And in that respect, they were the only ones who could do what they did.